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I have seen submissions lately talking about feminism and abortion. Most from what I have seen recently, are from men. How interesting. I just wonder, really, what gives them the right to intrude on our reproductive rights? Pro life claims they are well, about LIFE. Then why in the name of it, have women died because of not being ALLOWED to have an abortion? Isn't that murder as well?

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Good going. Really.

What I like about pro choice is the fact that women have the RIGHT to choose. If they want it or don't, that is up to them. It doesn't have to be forced. I'm a Feminist Atheist. Therefore, when it comes to my body, I don't feel men or God/church have any rights to it. Oh and the government.

Yeah, in the end of the day, this is my opinion. But it is my body too. And I will defend it. And help others as well.

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BiBitheLucario Featured By Owner May 25, 2015  Student General Artist
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Cosmicmoonshine Featured By Owner Edited May 22, 2015  Student Digital Artist
As a Pro-Lifer is what I have to say!: A right to choose what?  Women have a right to choose their college, spouse, and careers.  But should anyone have the right to choose to kill a human being for virtually any reason?  That is what it means to choose abortion. What about the child’s body and her choice? Again, make the distinction that there are two different bodies that we are talking about.
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CassiWWF Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay it is a fetus. Not a human. Not even freaking close. The fetus is not a Damn child, so don't treat abortion like infanticide because that's far from the truth.
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Cosmicmoonshine Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Student Digital Artist
At the moment of conception their is life Here is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church the Second Edition revised in accordance with the official Latin text promulgated by Pope John Paul II (now Saint John Paul II) sayscosmicmoonshine.deviantart.com…. Hopefully this should answer our questions. Keep in mind that the CCC is an authentic reference text for teaching catholic doctrine.

Medical science makes it clear the fetus has a heartbeat at 21 days from conception. By the third week the baby’s spine and nervous system are forming while the liver, kidney and intestines are taking shape. Hands and legs begin to grow at week five and by week six brain waves are detectable and fingernails are developing. By week twelve preborn babies can suck their thumbs and by twenty weeks they can feel pain because their nerves, spine and thalamus are developed. The preborn child is a distinctive work of art. Preborn babies have wrongly been referred to as mere “blobs of tissue” or “clumps of cells” by abortion proponents. One glance at an ultrasound screen can silence those lies. Modern technology gives us a window into the womb where we behold a complex creature that is far more than a bunch of cells clustered together.

Since the fetus is a person, it deserves protection. The preborn child is worthy of undeniable rights and privileges. Though the preborn child is carried in the womb of its mother, the fetus has a blood type, DNA and genetic code which are uniquely its own.

The Declaration of Independence proclaims that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Every human being regardless of their ethnicity, age, gender, physical disabilities or size should receive these rights.

The preborn child is one of the most vulnerable members of our society, yet sadly, the least protected. The maximum sentence for killing or injuring a bald eagle is $10,000 and up to two years in prison. The bald eagle is protected under federal statue as an endangered species we deem valuable.

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All 50 states in the U.S have animal cruelty laws that protect animals from being cruelly mistreated, neglected or injured. While our animals are rightly protected, the preborn human child remains defenseless.

38 U.S states have fetal homicide laws, allowing a person who murders a pregnant woman to be charged with two counts of murder. These laws that protect the rights of the preborn child independently of its mother do not apply in the case of abortion. A 26-week-old viable preborn baby can be dismembered and killed without reason in a late term abortion.

The laws that once existed to protect the preborn child have been traded in for illusions of liberation, cries for choice and philosophies that exalt momentary convenience over character development. Where is the justice in all of this?

History has shown us that the majority or status quo can be wrong. We understand now that even when a government counts a man as 3/5ths of a person or property, he is still nevertheless a person. Though the laws in our country have radically changed over the last century regarding the preborn, their personhood has never changed. Though society frames its arguments to support abortion around the topics of a mother’s health, rape, poverty and teenage motherhood, a truth remains. In light of our justifications for violence towards the preborn, there is no good and morally upright reason to destroy the life of an innocent human. For in destroying the preborn, we unknowingly reject our compassion and destroy ourselves.
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CassiWWF Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is religious doctrine, not science. All you've done is hide behind the Bible. I don't care who you are, Christ is not a shield. I'm Christian myself, but I find it sad how people think just stating or pointing to religious statements blocks points in a scientific discussion. God gave us our ability of free thought and will for a reason. Christ didn't make decisions for his followers, he made them ask the hard questions and had faith in their ability to answer justly despite the influence of perspective pivotal to the most basic concept of sentience. This is a question of choice and both the Lord and the Savior would agree human choice is a sacred value of its own.
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Cosmicmoonshine Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Student Digital Artist
Choice to kill a baby based on your needs rather then the babies?
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CassiWWF Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Essentially yes. And by the by, stop saying baby, we talking about fetuses, not children , the fact that you're continuing to call a stem cell mass a baby is beginning to piss me off.
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Cosmicmoonshine Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Student Digital Artist
Alright then define what a "fetus" is, its function, and how it is made. How would you describe the diference between a fetus and baby. What stage does a fetus become a living human being.
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CassiWWF Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Gladly. A fetus is the intermediary stage between between a fertilized egg and a human newborn. Its purpose is to grow while in the nutrient full environment of the human female womb to give the baby a healthy body upon its exit from the womb. This process is delicate, proven by the large amount of physical and mental issues that can develop in the womb, sometimes because of an outside factor, like smoking during pregnancy or just because something deviated naturally. A fetus becomes a baby after it exits the womb and at know point before that is it medically considered a child. There.
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Ask-Mary-Of-Ib Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hello? yeah, the fetus doesn't choose birth, and if the mother doesn't want it, you can't force her to birth it. When did YOU start being the dictator of what we can and can't do?
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Cosmicmoonshine Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Student Digital Artist
Medical science makes it clear the fetus has a heartbeat at 21 days from conception. By the third week the baby’s spine and nervous system are forming while the liver, kidney and intestines are taking shape. Hands and legs begin to grow at week five and by week six brain waves are detectable and fingernails are developing. By week twelve preborn babies can suck their thumbs and by twenty weeks they can feel pain because their nerves, spine and thalamus are developed. The preborn child is a distinctive work of art. Preborn babies have wrongly been referred to as mere “blobs of tissue” or “clumps of cells” by abortion proponents. One glance at an ultrasound screen can silence those lies. Modern technology gives us a window into the womb where we behold a complex creature that is far more than a bunch of cells clustered together.

Since the fetus is a person, it deserves protection. The preborn child is worthy of undeniable rights and privileges. Though the preborn child is carried in the womb of its mother, the fetus has a blood type, DNA and genetic code which are uniquely its own.

The Declaration of Independence proclaims that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Every human being regardless of their ethnicity, age, gender, physical disabilities or size should receive these rights.

The preborn child is one of the most vulnerable members of our society, yet sadly, the least protected. The maximum sentence for killing or injuring a bald eagle is $10,000 and up to two years in prison. The bald eagle is protected under federal statue as an endangered species we deem valuable.

ultrasound-human-fetus

All 50 states in the U.S have animal cruelty laws that protect animals from being cruelly mistreated, neglected or injured. While our animals are rightly protected, the preborn human child remains defenseless.

38 U.S states have fetal homicide laws, allowing a person who murders a pregnant woman to be charged with two counts of murder. These laws that protect the rights of the preborn child independently of its mother do not apply in the case of abortion. A 26-week-old viable preborn baby can be dismembered and killed without reason in a late term abortion.

The laws that once existed to protect the preborn child have been traded in for illusions of liberation, cries for choice and philosophies that exalt momentary convenience over character development. Where is the justice in all of this?

History has shown us that the majority or status quo can be wrong. We understand now that even when a government counts a man as 3/5ths of a person or property, he is still nevertheless a person. Though the laws in our country have radically changed over the last century regarding the preborn, their personhood has never changed. Though society frames its arguments to support abortion around the topics of a mother’s health, rape, poverty and teenage motherhood, a truth remains. In light of our justifications for violence towards the preborn, there is no good and morally upright reason to destroy the life of an innocent human. For in destroying the preborn, we unknowingly reject our compassion and destroy ourselves.
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aquotic-boosters Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2015  New Deviant Student Digital Artist
we do have the rights to murder. seriously, grab a knife and go on a serial killing spree. there's nothing stopping you, there's just consequences and you have to weigh them up.

and you know what? the consequences can still be worth the crime, you cunt.
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Cosmicmoonshine Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2015  Student Digital Artist
So then there are no consequences for killing a baby right? Cause favoring the the stronger human is more acceptable then helping the week and defenseless baby. Sounds like something a Spartan might do in way back when.  
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aquotic-boosters Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2015  New Deviant Student Digital Artist
ooh nice. greeks and romans are the reason we aren't shitting in the streets. plus there was gender equality.

not the greatest argument there, dingus.

there are fewer repercussions for aborting an unwanted foetus than there are for being forced to keep it.

if you force me to keep the foetus, i'll make you take care of the resulting hellspawn.
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CassiWWF Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Good argument on your part there, miss. Two thumbs up.
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aquotic-boosters Featured By Owner 3 days ago  New Deviant Student Digital Artist
im not a miss but thank you! 
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CassiWWF Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh crap. The femal character on your profile picture threw me off. I am soooo sorry.
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aquotic-boosters Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New Deviant Student Digital Artist
it's ok, you didn't know at the time! i'm a they, just for future reference. ^^
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AwesomeC99 Featured By Owner May 23, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's a clump of cells, it can't love yOu. People should be able to get one if they want to. Ever heard of the woman who died of blood poisoning from a sick/dying fetus Because she was denied an abortion. I'm sorry but if a slimy clump of cells is killing me I'm going to get that removed.
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Cosmicmoonshine Featured By Owner May 23, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Did you know those clump of cells have rights? Only a moron can look at a sonogram image of an unborn child and dismiss it as mere cells. What is the size requirement for it to have constitutional rights, how big does a human need to have rights? Is the weight and and height a factor? Do these rights come gradually as size increases and, if so, what is the ratio of size to rights? Should men have more rights since they are generally larger? If someone loses weight, do they lose rights? The right to life is extended to people who were born or naturalized in the United States. For example, it is not legal to murder a foreign visitor to the United States despite the fact that this person was neither born or naturalized here. How can something that is growing not be alive? Biology says that a fetus is alive, and abortion makes it dead, isn't that killing?If a being has human parents, isn't it human? If the mother and child are in danger The doctor should do his best to save both, but that is a very rare case. And if the doctor decides to save one and not the other  isn't that murder?  On the other hand, it is very common for the child’s life to be in danger during an abortion. What about the child's life?
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DragonOfEvil Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
I got a better one: Pro-choice because with billions of people on this planet, there's  no reason to treat people like breading cattle with no rights.
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LichKing0zma Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Your stamp isn't behaving.
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LichKing0zma Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This stamp could also apply to child circumcision.
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SecretlyaSavoir Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Could I do a stamp like this? Different design but same words?

I will credit.
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fiore-ciuri Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A clump of cells shouldn't have more rights than me. Yes.
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Ask-Mary-Of-Ib Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why can't you upvote comments?!
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SecretlyaSavoir Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Hallelujah.
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KINGRIEVOUS Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
PRO CHOICE FUCK YEAH!
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Awesome-Alicorn Featured By Owner May 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
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KINGRIEVOUS Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You selling Chocolate?
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Awesome-Alicorn Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry no
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KINGRIEVOUS Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
D:
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Awesome-Alicorn Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
But take this artificial chocolate instead!
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KINGRIEVOUS Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
CHOCOLATE 
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Awesome-Alicorn Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
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KINGRIEVOUS Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
PewDiePie - Wat 
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Nagito-Puffs Featured By Owner May 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
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 its a life changing decision to have a child 
its also to get an abortion
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Pro life because you can do what you want with your body (like not have sex, or have your tubes tied), but you have NO right to harm the other body involved.
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AwesomeC99 Featured By Owner May 23, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well what about rape? What If you're raped and get pregnant even though you never wanted a child? Gonna tell me she should have asked the rapist to wear a condom first?

What if the pregnancy is likely to kill you? I don't think that would be good for a non sentient blob of cells either to loose the mother.
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
 I am not talking about rape, rape is the extreme minority of abortions, medical reasons are also a small minority as most abortions are because of the "wrong" sex or change of mind, or similar excuse. And my feelings on rape are that if you do not want the child, you should give it up for adoption as soon as it is born it can be put into a loving foster home, a family that wants a child will take him or her. Rape is of course a heinous crime, and it is not the fault of the mother (the woman is usually the victim, but no victim of rape is at fault) but it is also not the fault of the infant.


Would you tell a woman who wants her child that the infant human being she is creating, that she loves, and that will be a human just like her, and hopefully only like you in species, that her precious baby is a worthless blob of cells that deserves to die?
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CassiWWF Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A fetus can't love because it cannot fucking think!
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
A fetus is a baby. It is a living human being with feelings and emotions. Please go back to school if you don't even know simple things such as babies feel pain. they react to stimuli inside and outside the womb and even recognize their parent's voices apart from other voices they may here, all while still in the womb. 
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CassiWWF Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then what if the fetus is aborted early on, before any major nerve grow?
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Technically while you are still taking a human life, the infant wouldn't feel it but most abortions aren't that early. 
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CassiWWF Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No you are not taking a human life, your sparing a potential child from a childhood of unwantedness and neglect that is entirely avoidable.
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p-iscean Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Student General Artist
Except expecting anyone with a uterus to abstain from sex is ridiculous, and most doctors refuse to tie anyone's tubes until they have had children. Unlike the pregnant person, that "other body" is not a sentient, independent life form. It does not have hopes, dreams, or a family that needs it, unlike the person carrying it.
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Then maybe she should have thought about that when she chose to take that risk, and doctors tie tubes without you having had children. That other human being, living just like you and I, and when developed enough a sentient being with thoughts, has every right we do. The right to live isn't just for humans age ___ and up, EVERY single human has that right as long as they live. A fetus is a living human, and every single one of us was at that developmental stage.
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p-iscean Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Student General Artist
Except consent to sex doesn't equal consent to pregnancy. And this is ignoring people who did not consent to sex in the first place.
That fetus isn't as important as the person forced to carry the fetus, seeing as that person may or may not already have a family that loves and relies on them.
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
If you are so determined not to give birth that you will murder a human, don't take the risk. Consent to sex, without something like a vasectomy or tubes being tied, is consent to the risk of getting pregnant. At that point she has exercised her right to choose. Now it is a matter of that child's right to live. And a fetus is a living human that is every bit as important as you or I, we were both fetuses at one time too. And she isn't being forced to carry anything, no one forced her to get pregnant or take the risk of becoming so. 
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