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I have seen submissions lately talking about feminism and abortion. Most from what I have seen recently, are from men. How interesting. I just wonder, really, what gives them the right to intrude on our reproductive rights? Pro life claims they are well, about LIFE. Then why in the name of it, have women died because of not being ALLOWED to have an abortion? Isn't that murder as well?

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Good going. Really.

What I like about pro choice is the fact that women have the RIGHT to choose. If they want it or don't, that is up to them. It doesn't have to be forced. I'm a Feminist Atheist. Therefore, when it comes to my body, I don't feel men or God/church have any rights to it. Oh and the government.

Yeah, in the end of the day, this is my opinion. But it is my body too. And I will defend it. And help others as well.

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Cosmicmoonshine Featured By Owner Edited 20 hours ago  Student Digital Artist
As a Pro-Lifer is what I have to say!: A right to choose what?  Women have a right to choose their college, spouse, and careers.  But should anyone have the right to choose to kill a human being for virtually any reason?  That is what it means to choose abortion. What about the child’s body and her choice? Again, make the distinction that there are two different bodies that we are talking about.
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AwesomeC99 Featured By Owner 10 hours ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's a clump of cells, it can't love yOu. People should be able to get one if they want to. Ever heard of the woman who died of blood poisoning from a sick/dying fetus Because she was denied an abortion. I'm sorry but if a slimy clump of cells is killing me I'm going to get that removed.
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Cosmicmoonshine Featured By Owner 9 hours ago  Student Digital Artist
Did you know those clump of cells have rights? Only a moron can look at a sonogram image of an unborn child and dismiss it as mere cells. What is the size requirement for it to have constitutional rights, how big does a human need to have rights? Is the weight and and height a factor? Do these rights come gradually as size increases and, if so, what is the ratio of size to rights? Should men have more rights since they are generally larger? If someone loses weight, do they lose rights? The right to life is extended to people who were born or naturalized in the United States. For example, it is not legal to murder a foreign visitor to the United States despite the fact that this person was neither born or naturalized here. How can something that is growing not be alive? Biology says that a fetus is alive, and abortion makes it dead, isn't that killing?If a being has human parents, isn't it human? If the mother and child are in danger The doctor should do his best to save both, but that is a very rare case. And if the doctor decides to save one and not the other  isn't that murder?  On the other hand, it is very common for the child’s life to be in danger during an abortion. What about the child's life?
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DragonOfEvil Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
I got a better one: Pro-choice because with billions of people on this planet, there's  no reason to treat people like breading cattle with no rights.
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LichKing0zma Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Your stamp isn't behaving.
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LichKing0zma Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This stamp could also apply to child circumcision.
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SecretlyaSavoir Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Could I do a stamp like this? Different design but same words?

I will credit.
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fiore-ciuri Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A clump of cells shouldn't have more rights than me. Yes.
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SecretlyaSavoir Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Hallelujah.
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KINGRIEVOUS Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
PRO CHOICE FUCK YEAH!
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Awesome-Alicorn Featured By Owner May 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
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KINGRIEVOUS Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You selling Chocolate?
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Awesome-Alicorn Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry no
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KINGRIEVOUS Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
D:
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Awesome-Alicorn Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
But take this artificial chocolate instead!
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KINGRIEVOUS Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
CHOCOLATE 
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Awesome-Alicorn Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
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KINGRIEVOUS Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
PewDiePie - Wat 
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Nagito-Puffs Featured By Owner May 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
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 its a life changing decision to have a child 
its also to get an abortion
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Pro life because you can do what you want with your body (like not have sex, or have your tubes tied), but you have NO right to harm the other body involved.
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AwesomeC99 Featured By Owner 10 hours ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well what about rape? What If you're raped and get pregnant even though you never wanted a child? Gonna tell me she should have asked the rapist to wear a condom first?

What if the pregnancy is likely to kill you? I don't think that would be good for a non sentient blob of cells either to loose the mother.
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p-iscean Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Student General Artist
Except expecting anyone with a uterus to abstain from sex is ridiculous, and most doctors refuse to tie anyone's tubes until they have had children. Unlike the pregnant person, that "other body" is not a sentient, independent life form. It does not have hopes, dreams, or a family that needs it, unlike the person carrying it.
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Then maybe she should have thought about that when she chose to take that risk, and doctors tie tubes without you having had children. That other human being, living just like you and I, and when developed enough a sentient being with thoughts, has every right we do. The right to live isn't just for humans age ___ and up, EVERY single human has that right as long as they live. A fetus is a living human, and every single one of us was at that developmental stage.
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p-iscean Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Student General Artist
Except consent to sex doesn't equal consent to pregnancy. And this is ignoring people who did not consent to sex in the first place.
That fetus isn't as important as the person forced to carry the fetus, seeing as that person may or may not already have a family that loves and relies on them.
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
If you are so determined not to give birth that you will murder a human, don't take the risk. Consent to sex, without something like a vasectomy or tubes being tied, is consent to the risk of getting pregnant. At that point she has exercised her right to choose. Now it is a matter of that child's right to live. And a fetus is a living human that is every bit as important as you or I, we were both fetuses at one time too. And she isn't being forced to carry anything, no one forced her to get pregnant or take the risk of becoming so. 
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p-iscean Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Student General Artist
Except sometimes people are forced to become pregnant.
I'm not saying children don't have a right to live. The murder of children is a heinous crime. Abortion, however, is a safe and necessary medical procedure.
True we were both fetuses at one point, but that just means we were codependent clumps of cells. The choice our parent made to carry us to term is the reason we have a right to life. Children are supposedly a gift. Why would you prefer that pregnancy be a punishment? Why would you prefer a child to be forced into this world unwanted? Your responses make it obvious that you don't care about the life of a child, but rather punishing people who do not meet your ridiculous standards for acceptable sex. 
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Abortion is not safe or necessary. It is lethal amd painful murder of a human life. I domt care if someone doesnt want that child, there are many families that are normal humans and would love to adopt a child. The mother should not have taken the risk if she doesnt want a child, and pregnancy is not a punishment, it is a miracle that some dont deserve. I have sex. I dont want a child right now. I take contraceptive precautions amd if I were to become pregnant, i would keep and love my child because i took the risk, adoption is also an option for others. Abortion is murder, and punishing an innocent human just for being created.
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p-iscean Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Student General Artist
Adoption is an alternative to parenthood, not pregnancy.
Not to mention fetuses aren't innocent, since innocence requires being able to choose between good and evil and to subsequently choose good. Fetuses aren't cognizant and therefore not able to be innocent or murdered.
You seem to forget that contraception isn't failsafe and that not all people who can become pregnant are women.
Who told you that abortion is lethal and painful? It's one of the safest medical procedures one can have.
But you know what is lethal and painful? Pregnancy.
You know what's murder? Forcing someone to go through a pregnancy that could easily kill them.
I wish you would stop pretending you care about the welfare of a fetus, considering you repeatedly focus on the sex lives of the people carrying those fetuses.
Pro-life? Give me a fucking break. More like pro-forced pregnancy.
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fairypaws Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
what about rape victims? they are girls 13 and younger who unwillingly get pregnant, and it isnt their fault. they shouldnt have their life ruined just because close-minded people said that it should be against the law to have an abortion.

i support abortion to a certain extent. i believe you can abort the fetus to a certain point in the development. once it develops a beating heart and vital organs, it is too late to have the option (depending on the mother's situation). this is my opinion, and i respect yours as well, i just wanted to point this out to everyone.
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That girl doesnt deserve to be raped but that baby doesnt deserve to die. Neither have done anything wrong, if anyone in that situation deserves any pain it is the rapist, and like i said i wasnt talking about rape, and rape is the EXTREME minority.
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SecretlyaSavoir Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Rape is still in the picture - even if your not pointing your finger at it. Its still sex and since you believe SEX = PREGNANCY it counts! What about incest? I guess your okay with not aborting those pregnancies that might have horrible defects, that's a great way to live you know.

I think you have us pro-choice people confused with pro-abortion advocates. You can do whatever the hell you want with your body, I could seriously care less - but most, if not all pro-lifers always push people to never ever have an abortion. You are just as bad as pro-abortion advocates! How dare you tell other people how to run their sex and family life!

I am all for protected sex, and if your stupid enough to have unprotected sex then you need to accept what can happen. But I'm not going to tell girls that have been raped that they cannot have an abortion because its wrong

And putting that child up for adoption does not help the situationIn the U.S. 397,122 children are living without permanent families in the foster care system. 101,666 of these children are eligible for adoption, but nearly 32% of these children will wait over three years in foster care before being adopted.

What's the right choice here?
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Thylacinus1 Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I am not talking about medical circumstances as that isn't a girl who is wanting to murder another human being for sex, that is a mother who is being forced with a choice, often times including her own life being at risk. If you really want it though, my opinion is still the same. We don't euthanize people in wheelchairs because they have either horrible injuries or defects/diseases. They still deserve life. And in the case of rape, its still murder. That child is still innocent, the mother is a victim but the best thing to do would be to give the child up for adoption, instead of creating yet another victim in the situation.

Im not telling anyone how to run anything, especially sex or family life. this is about one human taking another human being's life.

It IS still wrong. The difference is she is a victim too, she didn't choose to take the risk. HOWEVER I am not talking about rape. Rape and medical conditions are the EXTREME minority.

Those children are alive though. Killing a child because they might end up in foster care for a while, is BULLSHIT. I have 2 little sisters and one little brother. The youngest sister, and my brother, were adopted. Its a FAR better fate then killing them because "maybe..."

The right choice is the one not involving murder.
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mortimermcmirestinks Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It's not your body if it's a baby... how is this not obvious? It's only your body if it has your exact DNA (or mitochondrial DNA, if you want to be specific).

A baby in your stomach? Not your body.
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PurpIe-Guy Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Technically it IS your body since it would be living inside of you, you can only call it it's own body if it can take care of itself without relying on it's mother :l
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mortimermcmirestinks Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
What? That means that a patient and a doctor are the same body?
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PurpIe-Guy Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Not sure how you can give birth to the doctor but okay...?
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mortimermcmirestinks Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The patient can't survive without the doctor. Ergo, by your reasoning, they are the same organism.
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PurpIe-Guy Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You literally just said that a doctor lives off of nutrience from the mother lol.
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mortimermcmirestinks Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
No, I said that a patient lives off services from a doctor.
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PurpIe-Guy Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm just going to say what snowstripe said, since you obviously don't get it.
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Technically, the fetus is apart of the mothers body, thus making it her body to. The fetus lives of the mother like a parasite, though you'll probably be offended with me for calling a innocent, precious little fetus a parasite. It feeds of the mother, and rely's on the mother to take care of it. If it can fend for itself and make its own food, then it can be called a separate body. I might of worded some stuff a bit oddly, I apologize if you get a tad confused since I'm not really the one for words.
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MatrixKitteh Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I somewhat agree and somewhat disagree. That fetus is NOT your body. That's your BABY'S body. But if you're gonna die from giving birth, its another story. I'm kind of against getting pregnant alltogether (if avoidable) unless you really and truly want a baby of your own.
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xSnowstripex Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Technically, the fetus is apart of the mothers body, thus making it her body to. The fetus lives of the mother like a parasite, though you'll probably be offended with me for calling a innocent, precious little fetus a parasite. It feeds of the mother, and rely's on the mother to take care of it. If it can fend for itself and make its own food, then it can be called a separate body. I might of worded some stuff a bit oddly, I apologize if you get a tad confused since I'm not really the one for words.
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MatrixKitteh Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i see, buuut, I'm sticking to my own opinion. uwu
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SilverBeastLaguz Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Here's another thing about these pro-lifers, most particular the government people. They aren't doing it to save fetus; they're only doing it for power and money.

www.pro-truth.net/62-con-artis…
www.pro-truth.net/72-creating-…
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Lizzie-Doodle Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting, I gotta check that out.
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Traxxious Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly, I should be able to kill my sperm if I wanted to.
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joeynyeh Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013
i personally believe abortion is the ultimate evil,even worse than murder,unless the pregnancy will risk the life of the mother,and therefor will kill the infant aswell
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Ntn2 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
When human rights and who is (or isn't) a person are being discussed, everyone should have a voice, not just women.
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Inquistor-chan Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hnnn~...
Actually, there are plenty of women considering abortion isn't actually good, either, as far as I see. Actually, you may or may not be informed, but a kid needs both father and mother. The life begins when sperm meets the egg, and fertilization happens. Looking at it subjectively, women haven't done it be themselves, so they shouldn't choose themselves.

Right? Everyone has a right to voice their opinion. Isn't that all democracy is about? A freedom of speech. Just like a woman can join in on topics considered to be for men, men can converse in topics reserved for women.
I can say that I consider women not able to carry out their duty as a mother useless, weak, pathetic... or? Hoe much should you be worth if you aren't willing to sacrifice nine months for someone's lifetime, and then give them out? Actually, putting it like this, pathetic is a praise beyond words.

Hey, let me give you little hint. Rape victims aren't exactly enjoying being a sole argument to pro-choice, or a shield to women not mentally developed enough to use protection.
You see, when we go beyond that not all women who want to abort are raped, we get to the situation not all raped women are teens. And then, not all teen get pregnant by a rape. And even not all the raped ones turn out to not be developed enough not give birth.
Actually, I think picking rape up as a taboo topic is quite low, even for you guys. Lets admit it, not a single fuck is given about us from your side, is it?

Is it always all about competing with men?
Religion can not stop abortion, and we are aware of this. We just don't want any of such women anywhere near us, that's all.
Ohhh, let me see you against the Government~
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Teaislove Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012
Lovely stamp. I'm really sorry to be the one to point this out (Because I really like this stamp and the message it conveys) but some men have uterus's.
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